Having been a longtime WoW raider, I know that sometimes MMOs demand things of its players that are a bit excessive. Sometimes, you must heed the clarion call of the phat lootz that await a successful kill of a raid boss, but other times, you just have to sit back, stop, and ask yourself: “Is it really worth it?”

The Beyond the Limitation guild from Final Fantasy XI is probably asking themselves that right now, and, after a grueling 18 hour battle with the toughest boss in the game, their answer is most likely something along the lines of “no, no, never again, never ever again.”

Hit the jump for the full details on this ordeal.

That’s right, 18 hours. One boss. That’s ridiculous – even by MMO standards. The boss, which goes by the predictably overwrought name of Pandemonium Warden, apparently takes multiple forms while it summons tons of high-level enemies to fight you. It keeps shifting forms, which is pretty standard in itself, but this guy doesn’t stop – by the time Beyond the Limitation decided to call it quits, the thing was on its 20th form.

Estimating that it would have taken at least another 5 or 6 hours to take him down, the guild decided to do what they should have done at, I don’t know, hour 4, and call it quits for reasons of personal health.

People were passing out and getting physically ill. We decided to end it before we risked turning into a horrible new story about how video games ruin people’s lives.

In the face of such insurmountable obstacles, the guild leaders remain optimistic. It still seems like they want another shot. But even they think Square-Enix is asking way too much.

We are one of very few LS who have killed AV (not using the wall trick) so we know quite well what is futile and what is not.  None of us doubt that PW can be killed.  We just call into question exactly what the development team thinks is reasonable from human beings.

You know, if you do it right, even the hardest encounters in WoW don’t take very long. Maybe it’s time to move to another MMO, like the rest of the world did a long time ago.

Update: The name of the guild/linkshell involved in this story was originally misidentified and has been corrected.


  1. Wow. I am glad i gave that game up years ago. It took our guild (a couple of years ago) to beat one of the bosses in the release FFXI version, close to 4 hours. After that, i quit.

  2. FFXI is really unforgiving. Not only the grinding that sucks the life out of you but waiting for parties. I had a friend who waited 8 hours for the leaders friend to come online. But now this. I can’t imagine any of them with jobs, or will have their jobs after this.

  3. Wow talk about things getting a bit out of hand. Firstly, this is Sylphet from the linkshell Beyond the Limitation on Seraph server. That is the name of the linkshell, not The Sylphet Guild. The leader of the linkshell is Lhexh, not me.

    The above quotes were taken from posts and a private message on Blue Gartr Forums:


    We appreciate that much of the community agrees that this is a bit out of hand in terms of what is to be expected from players.

    For the record, this was a specifically scheduled event on a Saturday at 3:00 pm since we anticipated a long fight (just not that long). Most of us are in fact working adults. Our linkshell has never and would never expect our members to give up aspects of their real life for this. The end result of this specific event was just staggering to us. However the press it has gotten since is even more staggering.

  4. Yeeeaaah, this fight is getting taken out of context and over-exaggerated/misrepresented more than the Clinton scandal.

    I’m not even going to bother trying to explain anything, just go read about it here if you really want to know more:

    The last two updates are posted by one of the leaders of that linkshell/guild/clan/wuteva.

  5. I’ve read the livejournal and it really doesn’t seem like this story was that far from how they explained it themselves.