When I was down at Quake Con last week, I got to hear id Software‘s legendary technical director John Carmack speak about all sorts of things.  His keynote lasted more than 90 minutes and throughout it you could clearly tell that John had become a fan of Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console and far less a fan of Sony’s Playstation 3.  As a PC gamer myself, which console John prefers developing for means little to me (although it is interesting to hear him discuss it) but I know a lot of our readers are console gamers and they definitely want to know what a development icon like John really thinks about their favorite gaming machines.

Luckily enough, John walked into the press room as I was eating lunch one fine day and I had the opportunity to ask him all about what it’s like being a multi-platform developer in today’s gaming world.

"Swizzle Your Gigatexels Dave, Trust me"

John and I spoke for roughly 20 minutes about various topics, including the aforementioned multi-platform development.  While I can’t recall all of what we spoke about, there was one comment I remember extremely well.  That came when I asked him, “So, what do you really think about the PS3?”

His response?

“Well, it’s the second best console ever made”

He smiled and I laughed.

“What’s the first?” I replied

“The 360”

Shame, I was hoping he’d say the Sega Dreamcast.  ^__^

John says it’s not so much the power of the PS3 as it is the dev tools, which he says simply aren’t as good.

However, he did also say that there are places in RAGE where the PS3 works and performs better because the cells have more total processing power.

One thing is for sure.  Even if John thinks that the PS3 is a bigger pain in the ass to develop on, both versions of RAGE look damn near equal. (I’ve played them both) This is simply a testament to the team at id, and the genius of John Carmack.

Stay tuned to RipTen for continued coverage of RAGE and all things id.

166 COMMENTS

  1. PS3 hasn’t been last for awhile. I just went to vgchartz to make sure I was correct and the week of Aug 13th PS3 was top sold worldwide for consoles. 3DS is first for everything. 360 was 3rd. So to those saying “enjoy being 2nd or 3rd”. You are basing it off total sales overall since the 360 was released. It had a year head start. PS3 is catching up and will overtake the 360 within the year for overall total sales since the beginning. 

  2. of course the devs like the 360 better its basiclly a pc.  I like the ps3 because of the value, bluray isnt going anywhere anytime soon. as far as sales the ps3 is a year ahead of the 360 and of course gears will out sale the ps3 exclusives its one game versus 5. and why would people hate on playstation on a playstation site you must really hate your life.

  3. of course the devs like the 360 better its basiclly a pc.  I like the ps3 because of the value, bluray isnt going anywhere anytime soon. as far as sales the ps3 is a year ahead of the 360 and of course gears will out sale the ps3 exclusives its one game versus 5. and why would people hate on playstation on a playstation site you must really hate your life.

  4. The question is about “What is the best console ever made” so you must take in account the console as a whole the ps3 clearly kick the hell out of the 360. If Carmack cant handle the ps3 the he must swallow his proud and ask for advice to those who can (Square enix, Konami) or not create a game for it at all  and not making stupid statements.

    And for those who worship him you are as bad as Eric Harris the one who caused the columbine masacre so make us a favor and kill yourselves.

    Maybe he created the fps genre but if he hasnt then other would have done it. The reason he prefer the 360 is because is full of fps and he to have a ego boost every time he see a fps and think “Those are my bitches”.

  5. The question is about “What is the best console ever made” so you must take in account the console as a whole the ps3 clearly kick the hell out of the 360. If Carmack cant handle the ps3 the he must swallow his proud and ask for advice to those who can (Square enix, Konami) or not create a game for it at all  and not making stupid statements.

    And for those who worship him you are as bad as Eric Harris the one who caused the columbine masacre so make us a favor and kill yourselves.

    Maybe he created the fps genre but if he hasnt then other would have done it. The reason he prefer the 360 is because is full of fps and he to have a ego boost every time he see a fps and think “Those are my bitches”.

  6. The tools are just as good if not better, fact of the matter is they’re more complex. Someone clearly lacks the skills and intelligence a lot of Sonys first party developers do, you never hear them complaining.

  7. Man,wtf???Nobody gives a damn about xbox.99% of the gamers have ps3 or ps2.Sony playstation is in the first place for 15 years.Dude wake up!!

  8. ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  9. ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  10. ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  11. Of course it’s easier to develop a game on the 360, it’s a toy, a cheap one at that.  Easier means less costly to develop, less time consuming=more $$$$.  But is it a better console than the PS3….HELL NO!.  This comes from a dual console owner.  The list is a mile long on the shortcomings of the 360 from console failure rates to costly MP charges.  I have a 360 for the few exclusives (good ones) it brings to the table.  But the majority of my gaming is done on my PS3, not to mention NETFLIX access and before I forget a less “childish” MP experience.

  12. So…Carmack talks about how the PS3 is the 2nd best system (which he is incorrect, it’s the third best) and the comments go into PS3 fanboi’s calling others ‘retards’. How very original.

    *sigh* and PS3 fans actually have the audacity to wonder why real gamers despise them.

    Getting this uptight over a piece of plastic is just sad and makes one wonder what type of life you have beyond that big black box of fail you defend.

    Sales mean everything to business. If the PS3 sold as well as the Wii then PS3 fanboi’s would be throwing numbers in people’s face all the time…instead they pussy out and whine about how sales don’t matter, not only lying to other people but to themselves as well…nothing like blind, stupid fanboi brand loyalty to turn a normal gamer into a raving lunatic.

    Here’s a bit of advice:

    Admit that you couldn’t see that this system was a load of fail back in 2006.

    Stop swallowing to the bullshit Kaz Hirai keeps feeding you

    Admit that you had no idea what the “Emotion Engine” did when you first heard about it.

    Admit that you suck

    Move on with your life and realize that Sony and Hirai don’t give two squirts of piss about your absurd, creepy and insane loyality.

  13. So…Carmack talks about how the PS3 is the 2nd best system (which he is incorrect, it’s the third best) and the comments go into PS3 fanboi’s calling others ‘retards’. How very original.

    *sigh* and PS3 fans actually have the audacity to wonder why real gamers despise them.

    Getting this uptight over a piece of plastic is just sad and makes one wonder what type of life you have beyond that big black box of fail you defend.

    Sales mean everything to business. If the PS3 sold as well as the Wii then PS3 fanboi’s would be throwing numbers in people’s face all the time…instead they pussy out and whine about how sales don’t matter, not only lying to other people but to themselves as well…nothing like blind, stupid fanboi brand loyalty to turn a normal gamer into a raving lunatic.

    Here’s a bit of advice:

    Admit that you couldn’t see that this system was a load of fail back in 2006.

    Stop swallowing to the bullshit Kaz Hirai keeps feeding you

    Admit that you had no idea what the “Emotion Engine” did when you first heard about it.

    Admit that you suck

    Move on with your life and realize that Sony and Hirai don’t give two squirts of piss about your absurd, creepy and insane loyality.

  14. AverreDavnros take your pills that your shrink gave you and go to sleep!!Wii is your choice?Man you are such a fag!I bet you have a barbie right now playing with it.I can’t stop laughing with your situation.PS1 made a revolution in games(XBOX,or other console wouldn’t even exist if there wasn’t Sony Playstation) and still through PS2 and PS3 dominates not only in sales but in quality as well.Plus you moron it has most games in numbers and the most games that you play at your stupidpussy console are coming first in the PS3 and then the others follow.(and always has since PS1).Admit it your fake consoles are just imitations and everybody knows that.I have tried all the games and all the consoles since I was born and Wii is for 8-12 years old girls exploring their vegine as you I bet!                                                                 

  15. I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  16. I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  17. I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  18. Typical anti american assholes dont even realize the’re just as IGNORANT and ARROGANT as the Fox News crowd. You think most of us are KKK members obviously you know nothing about the US except anti-us propaganda.When the kkk marches in   NY they get pelted with objects and are forced to leave, because they’re the scum of the country. BTW: US is one of a small handful of countries where females own more of the wealth and have higher education rates. You say nothing good comes from here when the states has likely been the most innovative country of the past 200 years, from the bulbs you are now using to the planes that fly you away from your miserable home, phones, internet, and i could go on, were all invented by Americans or inside the US.

    You say that we talk shit, well read this message board and see the typical anti-us hypocrite who started talking shit. You guys are the ones who come onto OUR websites and start bigoted arguments such as this one. Check any political discussion on Youtube or Facebook if you dont believe me. 

    Btw, whenever you generalize Americans negatively you are talking about my family, my fiance, my friends, etc. all of whom are certainly far more respectful and less arrogant than you. So look in the mirror, yank-hating idiots, next time you want to criticize someone. 

    • Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

    • Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

      • That was an idiotic response which was just a bunch of opinionated nonsense, a failed attempt at justifying your hatred. Anti-americans are the biggest idiots in the world because of their hypocrisy which exists on so many levels. 

        1. I’m fairly certain no white American has ever denied their European heritage. What are you talking about?

        2. USA is a fake nation? Okay, fine. But how are we faker than the hundreds of colonized nations that exist in the Western hemisphere, Africa, Australia, parts of Asia, Germany [1871]…all of these countries are actually younger than the US. Is every immigrant on the planet “fake”???

        3. The US has actually existed as a nation for 235 years. So far your history is terrible, and you’re telling ME to read history? HAHA

        4. If us stupid Americans citizens really never offered anything to the world, please stop using the internet, dont use lights, never fly again, dont use Microsoft or Apple products, dont make phone calls, cancel your facebook account, dont google things or watch youtube, dont watch our movies, our tv, or play our games, dont consume our food/ beverages…. i could continue all day but you get the point. Of course, you will do some of these things tomorrow, because you bigoted hypocrites can’t live without American innovation. Oh, and stop reading this site.

        5. Europe invented the imperialist war. We inherited the shameful tradition of world domination through war from Europeans. Europeans caused deaths in the hundreds of millions through war, disease, and oppression.  More ignorant hypocrisy, thanks for the laugh. 

        6. We offer drugs to the world? Don’t the more liberal laws of some European countries actually allow MORE drugs? 
         
        7. You proved my initial point beautifully. You ignorant, arrogant, hypocritical, bigot, like all American haters are. Thanks.

        • No i’m not an american hater,i’m just telling the truth.You were discovered in 1492.I said 368 years ago  with ironic sense.I know more history than you believe me.You said it yourself,you only exist as a nation for only 235 years.Europe exists from the ancient years.Maybe some nations were colonized but as human beings are existing for thousands of years.Nation and State are two different things.Learn to separate them!You haven’t filled not even a half of a century.Survive for at least 5.000 years and then you can start saying that you have build a nation.When we had a civilization,democracy,society and culture you didn’t even exist as monkeys.Youowe your existence to Europe.And if you think that tv,movies,apple,facebook or games is an offer to the civilization then man you are a big joke.They are just shits of the modern technology that statistical they caused only damage to the people and in relationships between them.So 0+0=0 that you offered.You complain that you have terrorist when the biggest terrorist are you.You kill all those years their children and their families in the East,and then you are wondering why they hate you.You are just crazy.What happened to you in 11sept,you cause it every year in the East.Of course there will be consequences you sick,stupid morons!ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ  ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ!!(EVERYONE WHO IS NOT GREEK IS A BARBARIAN!!

          • 1.    
            I dont wish to argue who is a more significant contributor to
            civilization, of course Europe is older and has more history to show.
            [But the US has done more than anyone in modern times.] You keep saying that
            nothing has come from here although you blatantly ignored [because you’re a
            hater] the significant inventions and innovations that have shaped the modern
            world. My point was you anti-yanks use many American things every day as you
            insult the country, which is one reason why you’re a hypocrite.

             

            2.      
            I don’t appreciate being called a terrorist, I’m
            far more respectful than you and I hate war. You keep forgetting that European
            nations are the biggest murderers in history, specifically the British Empire…with
            the Spanish, Russians, Germans, and French close behind. But you don’t see
            Americans calling you terrorists, do we? [We aren’t as simple minded as idiot
            US-haters]

             

            3.      
            There is no need for us to continue this
            conversation buddy, because my only point was that us-haters are ignorant
            hypocrites, and you can’t disagree. 

    • Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

LEAVE A REPLY